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Is K12Linux el6 actively maintained?
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Sandra Schlichting
2014-01-15 07:44:47 UTC
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Hello all =)

Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.

Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?

Hugs,
Sandra =)
Radek Bursztynowski
2014-01-15 11:36:53 UTC
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Hello,

I use K12Linux in two localization permanently more than 18 mounts and I am very satisfied. I made few corrections and I use older thin client image (most people recommend the newest one). I couldn't compare to Ubuntu, but my installations on CentOS 6.5 x86_64 (upgraded from CentOS 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 6.5 and from LTSP 5.2 to 5.4) work fine and I can confirm there are stable including both cooperation: with Linux and Windows.

You can find "Status of LTSP in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 / Centos 6 / Scietnific Linux 6" here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora.

I didn't test LTSP on Fedora. I like Fedora, but Fedora is changed to fast for me to use Fedora as a productive server.

The people say in my country: every rose has its thorns. Identically is with CentOS and LTSP. But I customized environment, collected experience and now I use this combination. I looked for stable environment for LTSP and I found them - CentOS 6.x. There are my experiences.

Best regards,
Radek

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Hello all =)

Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.

Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?

Hugs,
Sandra =)

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Sandra Schlichting
2014-01-15 11:51:29 UTC
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Hi Radek,

That is very interesting.

Are you using CentOS instead of Fedora for the desktop OS that is
distributed to the thin clients?

Hugs,
Sandra =)




On 15 January 2014 12:36, Radek Bursztynowski
Post by Radek Bursztynowski
Hello,
I use K12Linux in two localization permanently more than 18 mounts and I am very satisfied. I made few corrections and I use older thin client image (most people recommend the newest one). I couldn't compare to Ubuntu, but my installations on CentOS 6.5 x86_64 (upgraded from CentOS 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 6.5 and from LTSP 5.2 to 5.4) work fine and I can confirm there are stable including both cooperation: with Linux and Windows.
You can find "Status of LTSP in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 / Centos 6 / Scietnific Linux 6" here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora.
I didn't test LTSP on Fedora. I like Fedora, but Fedora is changed to fast for me to use Fedora as a productive server.
The people say in my country: every rose has its thorns. Identically is with CentOS and LTSP. But I customized environment, collected experience and now I use this combination. I looked for stable environment for LTSP and I found them - CentOS 6.x. There are my experiences.
Best regards,
Radek
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Hello all =)
Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.
Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?
Hugs,
Sandra =)
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Radek Bursztynowski
2014-01-15 12:28:20 UTC
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I am not sure that I understand your question the best.
K12Linux offers thin client image based on CentOS (previously on Scientific Linux 6.1 and few years ago on Fedora 14 and 11, 10, 9). So thin client on boot stage downloads Scientific Linux or CentOS or Fedora OS from the server (Scientific Linux or Fedora OS - if somebody has older version of theses images and properly configured LTSP server is).
But which environment the user uses - it is separated matter. Owing to LDM mechanism and protocols we can offer user different environment: Fedora, CentOS, SUSE, Windows and others.

So, my quite new thin clients (i686) use Scientific Linux image (OS), sometimes CentOS (x86_64), older (i586) - Fedora 11. Owing to theses images I reached whole expected functionality including multimedia, local devices (DVD-RW with write option too).

Radek

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Hi Radek,

That is very interesting.

Are you using CentOS instead of Fedora for the desktop OS that is
distributed to the thin clients?

Hugs,
Sandra =)




On 15 January 2014 12:36, Radek Bursztynowski
Post by Radek Bursztynowski
Hello,
I use K12Linux in two localization permanently more than 18 mounts and I am very satisfied. I made few corrections and I use older thin client image (most people recommend the newest one). I couldn't compare to Ubuntu, but my installations on CentOS 6.5 x86_64 (upgraded from CentOS 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 6.5 and from LTSP 5.2 to 5.4) work fine and I can confirm there are stable including both cooperation: with Linux and Windows.
You can find "Status of LTSP in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 / Centos 6 / Scietnific Linux 6" here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora.
I didn't test LTSP on Fedora. I like Fedora, but Fedora is changed to fast for me to use Fedora as a productive server.
The people say in my country: every rose has its thorns. Identically is with CentOS and LTSP. But I customized environment, collected experience and now I use this combination. I looked for stable environment for LTSP and I found them - CentOS 6.x. There are my experiences.
Best regards,
Radek
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Hello all =)
Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.
Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?
Hugs,
Sandra =)
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William Fragakis
2014-01-16 15:55:46 UTC
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To add what Radek said very well, LTSP on EL platforms (we use
Scientific Linux) is very "production ready" in that it works, is very
stable and using an EL release allows us to use the same basic platform
for both LTSP and KVM (virtual machine) servers that are up for months
at a time.

I used to use the old K12 distributions based on Fedora but Fedora's
short lifespans and a period from F15-18 that weren't LTSP friendly made
it hard to maintain in an office environment that has to be up year
round. In an academic environment where you have summer or vacation
breaks to tune and update your software, that's not as big an issue.

As well, there were some pretty big (good) changes back in the day in
succeeding versions of Fedora and how it played with LTSP (eg
pulseaudio) that had us looking forward to new versions.

LTSP continues to be very effective for us after more than six years of
use not only in cost savings but in reliability and flexibility.

Best regards,
William
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Hello,
I use K12Linux in two localization permanently more than 18 mounts and
I am very satisfied. I made few corrections and I use older thin
client image (most people recommend the newest one). I couldn't
compare to Ubuntu, but my installations on CentOS 6.5 x86_64 (upgraded
from CentOS 6.3 -> 6.4 -> 6.5 and from LTSP 5.2 to 5.4) work fine and
I can confirm there are stable including both cooperation: with Linux
and Windows.
You can find "Status of LTSP in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 / Centos
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora.
I didn't test LTSP on Fedora. I like Fedora, but Fedora is changed to
fast for me to use Fedora as a productive server.
The people say in my country: every rose has its thorns. Identically
is with CentOS and LTSP. But I customized environment, collected
experience and now I use this combination. I looked for stable
environment for LTSP and I found them - CentOS 6.x. There are my
experiences.
Best regards,
Radek
Jeff Siddall
2014-01-16 15:58:33 UTC
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Post by Sandra Schlichting
Hello all =)
Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.
Can't comment on how actively it is maintained because I haven't looked
in the years since I first set it up, but it does work. I run a couple
of production servers are very stable (as you would expect with an RHEL
based system).

The only real issue I have is most users want to run KDE but kwin
crashes when used with LTSP. It kindly offers to use metacity instead
which works acceptably.

Jeff
j***@telenet.be
2014-01-20 10:14:33 UTC
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Hello,

replying to this with some delay ( and not sure what others replied )

It has to be at least as good as ltsp on Ubuntu. I run k12linux on some 15 sites now,
it almost never fails.

Greetings, J.

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Onderwerp: [K12OSN] Is K12Linux el6 actively maintained?

Hello all =)

Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.

Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?

Hugs,
Sandra =)

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Terrell Prude' Jr.
2014-02-01 19:15:54 UTC
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That's the beauty of K12Linux EL6. It is CentOS 6 with the LTSP added
onto it, so as long as CentOS 6 remains maintained, K12Linux EL6 will
remain maintained.

--TP
Post by Radek Bursztynowski
Hello,
replying to this with some delay ( and not sure what others replied )
It has to be at least as good as ltsp on Ubuntu. I run k12linux on some 15 sites now,
it almost never fails.
Greetings, J.
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Verzonden: Woensdag 15 januari 2014 08:44:47
Onderwerp: [K12OSN] Is K12Linux el6 actively maintained?
Hello all =)
Based on the K12Linux website and their mailinglist, I can't really
figure out if it is a production ready product and actively maintained
for EL6.
Does anyone know if it is as good and healthy as LTSP on Ubuntu 12.04?
Hugs,
Sandra =)
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For more info see <http://www.k12os.org>
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